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How to determine if you are
experiencing downdraught in your chimney
Over the last 8 years or so we
have firmly established ourselves as one of the top internet suppliers
of chimney cowls for all fuel types in the UK, whether you want
a chimney cowl for simple reduction of rain or a more advanced cowl
with anti-downdraught capabilities Hotline Chimneys is the company you
can trust.
I'm Brian the proprietor of
Hotline Chimneys, I have personally fitted most of the makes and
models of chimney cowls on our site in almost ten years of working
with chimneys. It's also me that answers the emails relating to your
queries.
Below we have a short list (not
so short anymore) of the various potential problems that exist with
chimneys or flues that may possibly not be caused by the type of
chimney cowl or terminal on the chimney. Note:
It's very rare that simple bird guard or hat type of chimney
cowls can cause problems and they are recommended for longer flue
and chimney life as well as reduction in damp problems, caps for
closed off flues are essential.
The above statement doesn't mean
you shouldn't contact us, if you need to, then do so (see contact link
above). But please give as much information, if photos will help we
will request them.
Before you browse through the
notes below I should give a special mention to 'air
supply'.
Many people contact us with symptoms that are immediately obvious
to us as a lack of air, a good comparison to make is the car engine,
this needs fuel & air to produce exhaust, most of us have
probably experienced a faulty car with either an air intake or fuel
problem. They also may have noticed that the exhaust is interrupted,
spluttery, and possibly full of fuel. The
chimney flue works in a very similar way. The first and most obvious
symptom is the smoke just not leaving via the chimney, but partly into
the room. Less obvious to the average person is when the fireplace
seems to burn well and all looks fine, but with the starvation of air
mentioned towards the top of this paragraph, it isn't working as well
as one would think. Like the engine, if a fireplace or appliance
hasn't enough air, it effects the exhaust, known in the trade as
products of combustion) which in turn then re-effects the fire. Other
problems caused by this include condensation and the damage it causes
to the flue. Chimneys soot and tar up more quickly so need sweeping
more often, and especially with wood burning, a far higher risk
of chimney fires from excessive build up of creosote exists.
Apparent Downdraught
This is not where a chimney has no draw or a
poor draw, but where everything seems to be ok, with no escape of
fumes into the room, and a good draught but then, suddenly, smoke will
bellow under the fireplace lintel or beam, or through stove or other
appliance's air intakes.
Things to check for:
The lack of air mentioned above can cause any of
the following to have a sometimes far more dramatic effect on fires or
appliances. It may be that you do have a downdraught problem, but it
can often be made worse by any of these things below, so even if it is
found that you need a cowl as well please bear them in mind first.
1, Poorly
fitting loft hatch.
2,
Poorly fitting upstairs windows.
3,
Any extractor fans, bathroom, kitchen, cooker hood etc. Not just in
the same room.
4,
Another appliance, boiler, range or especially open fires, more
especially large open fires.
5,
Air vent fitted on the down-wind side of a property.
6, Irregular
shaped stacks sometimes due to fancy traditional capping and
corbelling.
7, Leaning
stack or pot.
8, Broken
or cracked pot, stack with holes, bricks missing or other
irregularities.
Explanation
1,2,Gaps
near the top of a building such as loft hatches can cause problems
simply because the house acts like a big chimney, with the place full
of warm air which naturally rises and can do so with immense suction .
3,4, These
all need air to work, if they have a stronger pull than anything else
close by, they win and the weaker loses.
5, Less
common, but if the wind hits a building from a certain direction
it causes negative pressure on the down side, which can literally suck
the smoke back out of a chimney, I have even seen the smoke from a
test pellet dragged half way across a room and out through the vent,
and this was a fire that in all other weather conditions and wind
directions worked very well. The vent is better on the primary
wind side, but with a cowling over it to stop the wind from blowing
straight though and causing other problems
6, This
fancy work can look nice but can also effect the aerodynamics of
the chimney, although a chimney cowl will often solve it.
7,
These chimneys may be fine 99.9% of the time, but on the occasion that
the wind blows from a unusual angle it can cause the smoke to be blown
straight back down the flue instead of the wind moving smoothly across
the top of the pot or stack.
8, As
with No.7 anything that is not smooth and symmetrical in shape can
effect the way the gasses leave the chimney in gusty weather .
The Smoke Never Fully Draws
Away (1) Even with plenty of
air or sometimes even a window fully open, the smoke just fills the
room.
This one is for people that have
either had the fire working successfully in the past or have evidence
that it has worked ok, and no alterations have been carried out to
fireplace, chimney stack or flue.
1,
Bag or paper draught proofing up chimney (happens often believe it or
not)
2,
Nest or other obstruction in the flue.
3,
Damage within flue.
4,
Excessively dirty chimney.
5,
Blockage of soot in chimney cowl or bird guard on top of chimney.
6,
Change to anything in the house, such as numbers 1 to 5 in the problem
above.
Explanation
1, Well, I think this one is fairly
obvious.
2, Not
always as easy as first thought this one,
beware chimneys that appear to be clear and the problem then
re-occurs, many old flues contain voids and bends that can harbor
birds nests, the drying and shrinking of the nest with use of the fire
can often cause the nest to drop off of a ledge or shelf
re-blocking the flue. (Re-lining should seriously be considered for
flues like this)
3, Many
things that interrupt the smooth passage of the flue gases can effect
the working of the fire, an extremely common occurrence is when the
bats or mid-feathers fall or erode away (these are the dividing bricks
or stones that separate one flue from another), re-lining is the only
option left.
4, Some
chimneys can have problems with relatively little soot in the flue,
this depends on how finely balanced they are, but it is usually
evidence that the flue to fireplace size ratio is so accurate that the
slight narrowing of the flue with soot is enough to tip the balance,
if this occurs after 6 months, just have the chimney swept more often,
on the other hand, if it happens monthly, probably a reduction in
fireplace or increase in flue size is called for.
5, A
chimney cowl or bird guard that looks clear from the ground can
often have enough of a blockage to effect the fire, beware that other
problems such as lack of air can cause them to block quicker, and
ensure that chimney cowls or rain hats with the correct mesh for the
fuel are being used.
The Smoke Never Fully Draws Away (2)
Even with plenty of air or sometimes even
a window fully open, the smoke just fills the room.
This time for those who have had alterations
carried out to a chimney, fireplace or flue, or the property is new or
new to you. Please Note: We have had many
householders that say the previous owner told them the fire worked
great, just for us to have to inform them that there is no way it ever
worked properly. A smoking fireplace can be a depressing thing
(although you may already know this) and some do lie to help the sale
of the property.
1, No air
supply, please see 'air
supply' in
the top section
2, Fireplace too
big.
3, Flue too
small.
4, Wrong shaped
fire back
5, Wrong shaped
gather
6, Reductions in
flue size
7, Large voids
in flue
Explanation
2, This can be determined by fixing of a
non-combustible sheet across the top of the fireplace, decreasing the
opening size continually to see if it has any effect, or blocks or
bricks could be placed in the opening under the grate, one under
each leg won't do the trick though, you need to fill this area,
because you are looking for a reduction in the actual fireplace
opening.
3, The minimum
diameter permitted for any open fire in the Uk is 200mm (8") or
175mm (7") for some gas fires (this is required for the very
smallest open fires) if it is smaller
than this it's illegal, If your fireplace is larger refer to No.2.
4, So many
people have contacted us saying that they have opened up their
fireplace and now it smokes into the room, the reason it smokes is
that they often haven't opened it up, but taken it away. When many of
these large fireplaces were built (excluding some large
inglenooks) they contained either a fireback, a cast inset fire or
sometimes a range. This opening up as it is referred too, is in actual
fact just revealing what we call the builders opening, this was, if
you like, just the container for the fire, built at the time of the
rest of the structure so that the chosen infill could be fitted after,
it is rare that you will get a fire to work properly in this oblong
hole in the wall, except with special designs such as Rumford
fireplaces which where designed to work like this and are tapered
towards the back, or closed stoves.
5, The gather is
the bit above the fireplace lintel that tapers the fireplace into the
flue (hidden behind the mantelpiece area) If you look up and it's just
a flat concrete slab with a hole in it to the flue, or you can see
stepped bricks like a staircase up each side, it's wrong. It should
look like an upside down funnel, smooth all the way from the fireplace
to the flue.
6, Flues should
remain close to the same size throughout, if the reduction is nearer
the top of the stack (perhaps because the stack has been re-built and
reduced in size) you may find that the fire works ok for up to ten
minutes then suddenly smokes the room out, this is because the fire
draws alright but just can't take the volume of smoke, a common
example is when an inglenook is un-covered after years of being used
at a reduced size, when the fireplace was half the size of the
original that 8" diameter chimney pot wasn't a problem, but open
up the fire place and suddenly it needs a far larger outlet for
the gasses to get away. Note:
Many of these very large fireplace chimneys were never fitted with
chimney pots when they were built but just had a lime mortar
flaunching or corbelling around the top of the stack.
7, The most
common occurrence of this is with closed stove and fireplace canopy
installations. If a register plate has been fitted across a large
fireplace and then a canopy or stove are connected via a pipe or duct,
allowing this to just protrude the plate will cause these very hot
gasses to cool as soon as they reach this large void, nothing slows
the draught of a chimney like a cold block of air, and nothing causes
wood burners to leave more tar deposits on a flue.
I hope this helps, If you have questions
contact me here
Brian
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